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larence says:
August 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm
verie44 @7:55 pm:
That’s actually a pretty insightful post there.
It’s often said that when you learn game..when you SEE what women are attracted to, and what SOME women will do at the slightest sexual pass -well, you lose all respect for them.
I think that’s partly true IF..and I say IF..you overpedestalized them in the first place, and/or had ONLY run into honorable ones. For instance my grandmother was a good mother, a faithful wife, a smart as nails book keeper, a farmgirl, and a very christian lady who is very popular and has only ever had in her 88 years fewer enemies than I can count on one hand. I also used to live with grandparents when I was a child for a few years when my parents split and I hardly ever heard them say an unkind word to each other. It happened but it was rare – and they NEVER yelled at each other.
Imagine if that had been my only experience with women or marriage.
Luckily, I had my mom and dads high conflict miserable marriage (included cheating on both ends, and many other things I’d rather not get into) to ground me.
Point is, by the time I started learning game..and since I’ve not done it full time , I’m still at a relative “beginner” level though I’ve probably spent 200 hours on it all told..I had already had some experience with both the MRA world and r/l women to “ground” me.
Not all their sexual behaviors – and one of my friends used to be an instructor for Mystery’s group and once showed me he could take a girl from her boyfriend- caused me the total shock that many men feel when they see this stuff first hand, esp if they grew up with women they loved.
Sox says:
August 15, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I don’t really understand it – if you accept the tenets of Game and change your life, you’re basically saying that you were unattractive to women before, but figured out how to change that and now are attractive to women. So why blame the women from before?
It’s a bitter pill to swallow. Personal change is extremely difficult and painful, but you don’t hear men complain so much about this…it’s all about the before and after, and not the in between.
It requires men accepting that they’ve essentially been living a lie. Acknowledging that as a result of it, they’re NOT good enough. It involves painful realizations about true female nature, unflattering realizations that knock women off the pedestal many men were raised to put them on. The cognitive dissonance involved leads to a total mind-fuck that many guys refuse to accept and even fewer act on.
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